The point I want to make is, the idea that people will say - out of the 170,000 people or however many were killed in the tsunami - they'll say, "God saved me." As if God particularly saved this person. There's a tremendous amount of narcissism in that belief, that God is speaking directly to you. I mean, it's unbelievable. ... All these disparate opinions and points of view that people say they're getting as direct divine guidance - I've been concerned for decades about presidents who claim to be born again. And knowing that everyone I knew in the fundamentalist church or in the evangelical Christian church - they wanted the rapture to come. ... We don't have to save the environment, because we're not going to be around.