At my age [74], you realize that some things have caught you. You can see that as a positive or a negative. On the negative side: Are you in a routine, unconsciously adapting to things that work well?.... The black Masonite [board, Kirkeby used to underlayment for his painting].... by not painting them black and instead making them beautiful, I've wondered if I have sold that particular idea. Edvard Munch, as he got older, sat at his home and painted like a wild man. Those works were not very popular and have come to be considered the 'wrong' Munch. But that's how you need to be when you get old. I call it the arrogance of age: You don't need recognition. You just don't care.