Even as a kid, it wasn't to big stories of heroism that I listened but to the everyday people on my block more than anything else. Since I thought of my father and mother as somewhat heroic in their early years, what interested me tremendously was how this whole other world of people living every day, how they lived their lives. I think most people are heroic to a degree, they're heroic in caring for the lives of the people around them and not dumping each other or dumping on each other.