Sylvester: When was it that you first did a painting with one or two simple lines, horizontal or vertical, across the surface?
Newman: I would say that it began in '46- '47. In those years, whenever I did a painting with one or two elements in it, it did always have a sense of an atmospheric background, I suppose - with the exception of a painting which I called Euclidian Abyss, where the background is black and has some of the white coming through, but there's no true atmosphere.