I always took myself really seriously... but sometimes I'd be at a venue and the guy would call me ‘sweetie' or ‘honey' when we were doing drums and stuff. I'd carry the drums in myself so people wouldn't say I was a bitch. I went very briefly to an engineering school, so I knew the difference between white noise and pink noise and what a view meter was, and a logs player and things like that. I didn't need to know but it came in handy when I was sitting with Steve Albini like ‘really? Is that a good logs player?' I barely know what it is, but I learned "Smoke On The Water" so I could go to Guitar Center and play that and not have guys look at me. It was a different time-I think girls get taken a lot more seriously now.