I'm telling you, the Devil is very smart. He's not going to come out with the horns and the tail. He's going to come in as the slickest car salesman you ever saw – and I've seen some pretty slick pastors on TV. Now that's not to say they're all like that. ... But every time I hear something that goes a little left of center, I go, ‘What? What was that?' You know, too much healing on TV, I don't know about that. That's showbiz I think.