How many years had he taken to admit a notion of what Michael Angelo and Rubens were driving at? He could not say; but he knew that only since 1895 had he begun to feel the Virgin or Venus as force, and not everywhere even so. At Chartres - perhaps at Lourdes - possibly at Cnidos if one could still find there the divinely naked Aphrodite of Praxiteles - but otherwise one must look for force to the goddesses of Indian mythology.